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Steak pie?

Houl oan a meenut. just put a cite needed about that Steak pie. While it sounds delectable, dindins on the last day for anyone that I know consists of the final Xmas remnants or the first set of new mince to arrive in the fridge once Teescos has reopened! AND..shouldn't it be a mutton pie? Brendandh 03:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article is a bit random with it's layout.. Even though it doesn't come under "Ne'er Day", steak pie is traditionally eaten then.. Probably to sober folk up, and to start the year on a good meal (completely guesswork on my part). What people eat on Hogmanay, is another matter! 82.41.97.29 00:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, steak pie is definitely associated with Ne'erday, with the associated belief that it is to sober you up following Hogmanay festivities. Bloody good meal too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Breadandcheese (talk • contribs) 03:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Most Scots celebrate New Year's Day with a special dinner, usually steak pie." I've lived in Scotland for a few decades and have never heard of this or of Ne'er Day. It's just not true that most Scots celebrate New Year's Day with a special dinner. The line needs to be totally reworded. Wigigigi (talk) 20:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gregorian calendar

The Gregorian calendar is mentioned twice near the top of the article, which seems to suggest that it particularly important. The only credible alternative is the Julian calendar, which Scotland used until the Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (Westminster). As written, the text would suggest that Hogmanay never happened before 1752, which I doubt is intended? If it is just a disambig, then a footnote is plenty. Any objections to my doing that?

Does anyone have any material about response to the 1752 calendar change in Scotland? Did nobody object to New Year's Eve suddenly moving from 21 days after the solstice to just ten? The Calendar Act article has material on English complaints about Christmas being moved but nothing about any Scottish reaction.

Calendar (New Style) Act 1750#Scotland has material on the Order in Council of 1599 by which Scotland changed its New Year's Day from 25 March to 1 January. Does anything need adding?

Hidden agenda: I have been working to improve the Calendar Act article and this is a loose end that it would be nice to tie in. So suggestions will be very welcome. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 08:54, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

mention Biggar Bonfire

it'd be good to write something about the Biggar bonfire: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q124069141 RedAuburn (talk) 20:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Origin

Those interested might want to check this page : https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/au_gui_l%E2%80%99an_neuf "Au gui l'an neuf" : gui = mistletoe + l'an neuf = the new year. "Au gui" does not reallly make sense, though. One theory is that the whole phrase is a later deformation of the Gaulish phrase "O ghel an heu", meaning "Let the wheat rise". Bonne année aux Écossais, et aux autres. 78.242.55.51 (talk) 23:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect translation

Hi, I was just reading about the origin of the term "Hogmanay." Under the Possible French Etymologies section (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogmanay#Possible_French_etymologies) it gives "l'an neuf" as "the new year." But as any senior school student studying French will tell you, "l'an neuf" means "the ninth year." And given that this fundamental error is being cited as gospel, it is beyond my ability to correct all the entries referencing it. Please hand it back to the person responsible and ask them to rewrite it. Interestingly, the article cited as source is the OED, which includes the same error. I will be pointing it out to them too. Respectfully. 1956Firebird (talk) 12:43, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article reports that this is what the OED says. It does not claim that it is true (or false). --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:09, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]